[community] FW: Remunerating advisory committees

Laura Yvonne Bulk laurabulk at gmail.com
Tue Jul 17 23:39:28 UTC 2018


Looking forward to learning how it turns out .

Laura Yvonne Bulk OT, MOT, BSW
PhD Candidate, Rehabilitation Sciences
<https://twitter.com/LYBOT> Twitter: @LYBOT
Faculty of Medicine | The University of British Columbia
T325 – 2211 Wesbrook Mall | Vancouver, BC Canada V6T 2B5
Mobile: 778.228.4774
LauraBulk at gmail.com


On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 at 07:18, Yarrow, Alexandra <
Alexandra.Yarrow at biblioottawalibrary.ca> wrote:

> Thank you all for your thoughtful replies!
>
> I work at a public library, as you could probably tell from my signature,
> and we're thinking of starting an inclusion advisory committee. I'd like to
> make a case for citizen members of the committee to be paid for their time,
> for many of the reasons you have outlined below. We'll see how it goes...
> it may take me a year to even get the idea off the ground. But everything
> you are saying gives me some good examples and benefits to point to, so
> thank you for that.
>
> Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: community <community-bounces at lists.idrc.ocadu.ca> On Behalf Of Abid
> Virani
> Sent: July 16, 2018 6:22 PM
> To: Cybele S <cybele.sack at gmail.com>
> Cc: Inclusive Design Community <community at lists.idrc.ocadu.ca>
> Subject: Re: [community] FW: Remunerating advisory committees
>
> Super interesting discussion.
>
> At Fable, we’ve have about 15 accessibility testers that use our platform
> to test websites and mobile apps. We pay them between $30-$50 an hour for
> their time. Their work involves identifying issues and providing
> suggestions. They work from home and choose their hours. We feel this rate
> is fair and have gotten positive feedback about it so far.
>
> Cybele, I really don’t think it comes down to “worth more” but rather the
> scarcity of the tester’s lived experience, the urgency of the service, and
> who’s doing the research.
>
> Still very new to this and glad to hear different perspectives!
>
> Abid
>
>
> > On Jul 16, 2018, at 5:50 PM, Cybele S <cybele.sack at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Curious about how this pans out if the consultation and testing is not
> > about assistive technology and instead with people who have invisible
> > disabilities.  If someone wanted to test an MVP within a community of
> > people with mental health conditions, would they also pay $100/hour?
> > Or is some lived experience "worth more" than others?  And does it
> > matter who is doing the research (large, small organization)?  Or in
> what context?
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Rylan Vroom <dj.sonr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Laura, the other thing we cannot lose track of is that people with
> >> disabilities are a vulnerable segment of the population: employment
> >> numbers are low, and there is still a lot of societal stigma and
> >> barriers to full inclusion at this time. The business world has woken
> >> up to the fact that accessibility and inclusion actually translate
> >> into real monetary value, and access to the internet has given this
> >> population a voice. (leading to legislation and other
> >> inclusion-friendly effects)
> >>
> >> Thus, people with disabilities can now derive value from the skills
> >> they have spent time honing, and it behooves the entities in need of
> >> those skills to compensate them accordingly. From what I've seen over
> >> the last five years, $100 for one hour and a possible phonecall plus
> >> transportation is the going rate in Canada for such services.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: community [mailto:community-bounces at lists.idrc.ocadu.ca] On
> >> Behalf Of Laura Yvonne Bulk
> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 2:54 PM
> >> To: Alexandra.Yarrow at biblioottawalibrary.ca
> >> Cc: Inclusive Design Community
> >> Subject: Re: [community] FW: Remunerating advisory committees
> >>
> >> I have a "research team" looking at being blind & belonging in
> >> academia/higher education. Each member (minus me) will be given an
> >> honourarium/stipend, but we haven't decided how much yet (we've
> >> discussed it as a team, and are going to make that decision
> >> collaboratively)
> >>
> >> I do think it is an important thing to respect members of these
> >> team/committees - and in our society payment seems to be the biggest
> >> way we show respect for someone's time/expertise. All too often I
> >> volunteer my time/expertise/experience for free - which I really do
> >> like doing, but I'm a bit torn - am I perpetuating a disrespectful
> >> system by doing this over and over again?
> >>
> >> Great question/consideration.
> >>
> >> Laura Yvonne Bulk OT, MOT, BSW
> >> PhD Candidate, Rehabilitation Sciences <https://twitter.com/LYBOT>
> >> Twitter: @LYBOT Faculty of Medicine | The University of British
> >> Columbia
> >> T325 – 2211 Wesbrook Mall | Vancouver, BC Canada V6T 2B5
> >> Mobile: 778.228.4774
> >> LauraBulk at gmail.com
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 11:41, Yarrow, Alexandra <
> >> Alexandra.Yarrow at biblioottawalibrary.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Given the trend of consultation fatigue, I am wondering:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ·       if any of you have an accessibility or inclusion-based advisory
> >>> committee (or a similar advisory committee comprising members of the
> >>> disability community), and if so,
> >>>
> >>> ·       do you remunerate them (stipend, expenses or in any other way)?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>>
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