[community] FW: Remunerating advisory committees

Tue Jul 17 14:18:21 UTC 2018

Thank you all for your thoughtful replies!

I work at a public library, as you could probably tell from my signature, and we're thinking of starting an inclusion advisory committee. I'd like to make a case for citizen members of the committee to be paid for their time, for many of the reasons you have outlined below. We'll see how it goes... it may take me a year to even get the idea off the ground. But everything you are saying gives me some good examples and benefits to point to, so thank you for that.

Alex

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From: community <community-bounces at lists.idrc.ocadu.ca> On Behalf Of Abid Virani
Sent: July 16, 2018 6:22 PM
To: Cybele S <cybele.sack at gmail.com>
Cc: Inclusive Design Community <community at lists.idrc.ocadu.ca>
Subject: Re: [community] FW: Remunerating advisory committees

Super interesting discussion.

At Fable, we’ve have about 15 accessibility testers that use our platform to test websites and mobile apps. We pay them between $30-$50 an hour for their time. Their work involves identifying issues and providing suggestions. They work from home and choose their hours. We feel this rate is fair and have gotten positive feedback about it so far.

Cybele, I really don’t think it comes down to “worth more” but rather the scarcity of the tester’s lived experience, the urgency of the service, and who’s doing the research.

Still very new to this and glad to hear different perspectives!

Abid

> On Jul 16, 2018, at 5:50 PM, Cybele S <cybele.sack at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Curious about how this pans out if the consultation and testing is not
> about assistive technology and instead with people who have invisible
> disabilities.  If someone wanted to test an MVP within a community of
> people with mental health conditions, would they also pay $100/hour?
> Or is some lived experience "worth more" than others?  And does it
> matter who is doing the research (large, small organization)?  Or in what context?
>
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Rylan Vroom <dj.sonr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Laura, the other thing we cannot lose track of is that people with
>> disabilities are a vulnerable segment of the population: employment
>> numbers are low, and there is still a lot of societal stigma and
>> barriers to full inclusion at this time. The business world has woken
>> up to the fact that accessibility and inclusion actually translate
>> into real monetary value, and access to the internet has given this
>> population a voice. (leading to legislation and other
>> inclusion-friendly effects)
>>
>> Thus, people with disabilities can now derive value from the skills
>> they have spent time honing, and it behooves the entities in need of
>> those skills to compensate them accordingly. From what I've seen over
>> the last five years, $100 for one hour and a possible phonecall plus
>> transportation is the going rate in Canada for such services.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: community [mailto:community-bounces at lists.idrc.ocadu.ca] On
>> Behalf Of Laura Yvonne Bulk
>> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 2:54 PM
>> To: Alexandra.Yarrow at biblioottawalibrary.ca
>> Cc: Inclusive Design Community
>> Subject: Re: [community] FW: Remunerating advisory committees
>>
>> I have a "research team" looking at being blind & belonging in
>> academia/higher education. Each member (minus me) will be given an
>> honourarium/stipend, but we haven't decided how much yet (we've
>> discussed it as a team, and are going to make that decision
>> collaboratively)
>>
>> I do think it is an important thing to respect members of these
>> team/committees - and in our society payment seems to be the biggest
>> way we show respect for someone's time/expertise. All too often I
>> volunteer my time/expertise/experience for free - which I really do
>> like doing, but I'm a bit torn - am I perpetuating a disrespectful
>> system by doing this over and over again?
>>
>> Great question/consideration.
>>
>> Laura Yvonne Bulk OT, MOT, BSW
>> PhD Candidate, Rehabilitation Sciences <https://twitter.com/LYBOT>
>> Twitter: @LYBOT Faculty of Medicine | The University of British
>> Columbia
>> T325 – 2211 Wesbrook Mall | Vancouver, BC Canada V6T 2B5
>> Mobile: 778.228.4774
>> LauraBulk at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 11:41, Yarrow, Alexandra <
>> Alexandra.Yarrow at biblioottawalibrary.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Given the trend of consultation fatigue, I am wondering:
>>>
>>>
>>> ·       if any of you have an accessibility or inclusion-based advisory
>>> committee (or a similar advisory committee comprising members of the
>>> disability community), and if so,
>>>
>>> ·       do you remunerate them (stipend, expenses or in any other way)?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> Alexandra Yarrow B.A. Hon., M.L.I.S.
>>> Manager, Alternative Services | Chef de service, Services parallèles
>>> Bibliothèque publique d'Ottawa Public Library
>>> 120 av. Metcalfe, Ottawa ON K1P 5M2
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>>> cell 613-818-4918
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