[community] Best Practices for Describing Art in Alt Text

Tue Nov 14 14:41:12 UTC 2017

Thank you so much. I had heard about the walk but could not make it. I'm glad we are finally getting to a point where people like myself can truly experience what is around us in such a way that we can imagine it rather than using a gps for example that simply gets  us from point A to point B. No offense to it, it has its purpose and I appreciate a good gps or tracking system, but I also like to know  more about my surroundings or at least have the option to know more.
Thanks for the link, I'll  listen to it. Do you  know what the next steps for this project are?
Pina

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Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 9:27 AM
To: Andrea Lamarre; Inclusive Design Community
Subject: Re: [community] Best Practices for Describing Art in Alt Text

Pina, things that you are describing are also very interesting to me as a sighted user. When walking to a museum, I’d also like to understand the artist's intention and process for specific pieces.
Andrea, a group of us at IDRC did an audio walk a few weeks ago ‘Passing Through’ by Coffer gallery. It is an audio walk that takes you on a journey of Toronto’s streets, discovering the legacy of their history and innovations for their future. You will walk from the Union Station to St. Lawrence Market, gently guided by an artful, imaginative narration. Although it wasn’t describing art, it was providing a beautiful narration of any sculptors, murals, or urban landmarks on our path. I’d recommend listening to it to see how these narrations are prepared. They included both description of the final product as well as the history and intention of its producer.

Here is a link to this audio walk:
http://www.koffler.digital/passingthrough/

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On Nov 14, 2017, at 8:54 AM, Pina D'Intino <pina.dintino at gmail.com<mailto:pina.dintino at gmail.com>> wrote:

>From my perspective I like the description of the piece as if I were navigating through it with my fingers or hands, but most importantly to me is to also capture what the artist was thinking when the piece was created, what are some of the particulars of the piece. I like to create a mental vision of the piece in my own mind as it evolved. Because I had sight before, I can relate to colours and shapes, I can relate  to things it might resemble. For me describing an art piece is not only about the physical aspect, it is about what it doesn't always say, what isn't so obvious and how it came to life.
Often museums will talk about the finished product as an item, something it stands for, but  the lack of insight into the piece makes it meaningless at times and loses its impact on the observer.
Just some of my own  thoughts and experiences. I love going to museums that allow you to customize your experience. I did a project with some friends years ago at the Bata museum. We were testing  a device that  described the pieces as you walked by them. The cool thing is that the observer or visitor could get  a short description of the  piece or shoe in this case and can also expand the description to include some of the insights or  history.
This was a pilot which I'm not sure if it ever came to life as I have not been back. For me, that is the experience. I can choose to only know the name of the piece and artist, or if it captures my interest, know more about it as I stand and admire or feel the piece. I had a bit of a similar experience when visiting a museum in St. John's, Nfld when learning about
rocks and   the history of the icebergs.
Hope you find this helpful.
Pina

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Subject: Re: [community] Best Practices for Describing Art in Alt Text

Hi Andrea, I'm not an artist, but I am almost totally blind. I'll answer this question the best I can, but other blind people may have different opinions than mine. I guess it would be harder if you don't know the artist's intent, but I'd suggest having as much detail about the images possible, for example if you're talking about a picture of a person, the style and color of what they're wearing, their facial expression, and what they're doing. I hope this helps a little. Thanks, and take care.

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On Nov 13, 2017 3:02 PM, "Andrea Lamarre" <alamarre at uoguelph.ca> wrote:

Hello all,

I am wondering if anyone has come across best practices for describing art in alternative text? I can find many examples of best practices for alternative text in general but not for art specifically.

I want to do justice to the art but I am not always sure what the intention of the artist was in creating the piece, nor am I always sure myself what the elements of the art piece are. I am trying to balance respect for artistry and respect for accessibility. My words about the art will necessarily be coloured by my own interpretation of the piece.

Any thoughts would be very welcome.

Thank you!

Andrea

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Department of Family Relations and Applied Nutrition

University of Guelph

Knowledge Mobilization Coordinator

ReVision Centre for Art and Social Justice

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